However there is an airport bus I'll use going back that's much cheaper and hopefully slower.
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I love both tho! Avianca is vastly preferred over LAN. Forget the bus. Bogota is 2 miles high and Medellin is 1 mile high and the mountain roads between them are so twisting that it takes the bus 18 hours to go the miles. Bogota is a little cooler than Medellin and may require a light jacket at night but Medellin is warm all day and night. Both cities get several rain showers every day. Medellin is the center of the coffee trade although it's hard to get a decent cup of coffee here that doesn't taste like instant.
It's also the center of the flower industry where most of the cut flowers we buy in the US come from.
Bogota has 8 million people in the city, same as New York, and is a regional financial center with a large middle-class and many story skyscrapers. The gay neighborhood of Bogota is called Chaperniro and extends from about Calle 50 to Calle One of the largest gay nightclubs in the world is Theatron on 58th and the NYT calls Bogota a new gay mecca.
Coke and pot are both legal and super cheap. Bogota has 8 million people in the city, same as New York, and is a regional financial center with a large middle-class and several story skyscrapers. I have never seen a guide book or a web site on Medellin that discusses the gay scenes except a mere mention of its existence. Then, again, if one were to look for a web site for details on Brazilian saunas, none exist.
True, the well known Brazilian saunas have web sites but nowhere on the web site does it advertise garotos hustlers. You either have to go there in person or read a site similar to this site to know or learn about the garotos. Thank You! For a first time poster, great job!!
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This was my first time in Columbia and I did my research just googleing. I didn't have a guide although I'm sure one would have been better. When you google certain terms the usual sites don't offer much except lists of places- some out-dated. A site called Columbia Express has a story on the best and worst of gay Medellin which is otherwise a great story but is the one that said Calle 57A west of the cathedral is where the prepagos arethat's why I went there and got robbed twice.
In fact 57A east of the catherdal, where the prepaygo bars are, is the intersection of Medellin's main street Oriental so it's completely safe.
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Funny how one little mistake like that can make such a difference in safety. Researching, most of the many saunas have websites and list their rates, including for massage. One in Bogota, which I'll go to, actually has photos of it's masseurs. The universal slang for garotos in Columbia is "Prepaygos", which is technically the term for prepaid telephone service. A variation on rentboy. Thankfully Grindr at least isn't hip to that slang yet. I, too, want to thank you for your most helpful report. After seeing the fabulous guys on "Flirt for Free" who have always stated that they were from Colombia when I asked them from where do they hail, this has been one place which has always piqued my interest.
Also, another poster has written some good reports after he'd visited, too, but he speaks Spanish. Do you speak any Espanol and are perhaps fluent. I know you mentioned about the taxi drivers. Thanks for knowing the difference between piqued and peaked. The hottest are from Cali. None from Bogota. I don't speak any Spanish. I leave to go back to Bogota for 2 more days in the morning and if anyone has any suggestions there I'd appreciate them. My first couple days there were fruitless. Evidently Delta is starting daily non-stop service to Medellin and Cartagenia from Atlanta.
They already have flights to Bogota. Very interesting posts! Thank you. I, too, have been considering Colombia. But, I must say getting robbed twice makes me wonder about Medellin. First, thanks for all of the great information.
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On the comment on the cabs, is it just that they potentially will overcharge you or other issues? In Columbia there are white cabs for tourists that are very very few, only called by hotels, and a little more expensive than the thousands of little yellow cabs cruising every street.
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I was warned they sometimes actually rob tourists and dump them so I took white cabs 3 times. The first time was in Bogota going about 3 miles from my hotel to Chapinero. The 2nd time I got a white cab from my hotel to go exactly 10 blocks up the same avenue from the hotel. The address was clear and written down.
The driver for some reason took me way up on top of Montserret mountain on a narrow road in the woods and I was actually shaking that I was going to be robbed and killed. I begged him to take me back to the hotel after a half hour of senseless driving on top of the mountain which he did and and asked me to pay him 10K COP for the "effort" which I did and walked where I was going.
The 3rd white cab was from the Medellin airport which is a 25 mile drive over mountains. I trust the people who tell me that the yellow street cabs are much more dangerous for tourists especially hence I want nothing more to do with any cab in Columbia than I have to. I got my hotel In Medellin right in the middle of everything and when I return to Bogota tomorrow I'm learning to use the Transmillenio Rapid Bus from my hotel to Chapinero. Any future trips here I'll always get my hotel in the action area to avoid taxis. I returned to Club Tobi sauna for the 3rd time tonight and had sessions with Adrian and Christain my two favorites tho Christain doesn't bottom while Adrian is a super power bottom.
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Both collect muscles the way some people collect stamps and are sweet and cheerful as anyone I've ever met. Even on a slow Monday night there were 4 masseurs working and grateful for the business. After they closed at 10 I walked up to the prepaygo block, 57A, but it only had about 20 people out and about half were prepaygos. Medellin is a very early town. I really think that generally, especially for a visitor, the sauna boys are a much better experience than the street prepaygos.
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