Don't forget about the panda bears Thank you for posting this. I had no idea there We're so many types. And it helped me figure out that I seem to fit into the otter spectrum so according to the definitions I'd most Likely day I'm a Potter. Add I'm also quite new to the gay scene. Thanks again. Great article! I enjoyed reading through all you had to say. I guess I would technically be a "Sugar Cub" but i'm alright with that.
Great job. I don't see any problem in assuming i'm wicked and bitter. That's typical of underestimated minorities. Lol, as if people can enter into case. But if you speak of people or community in term of animal totems, wath you write can be really frustrating.
The world offer so much more diversity. I'm a very tall, skinny dandy with facial hair and cynical attitude, so what I am? A fucked-up twunk? Okey, I gonna make my own subcategory, I'm a greyhound. I'm just so proud beeing the leader of a group which I'm the only member, I c'an't stop enjoying it darling ;. So like I'm a pup I suppose. But my partner is a grease monkey kinda guy. You know. He is always fixing well breaking the cars.
And and loves to over gel his hair. So I dont know wjat category he falls under. You people need to grow up and stop trying to define who you are based on your sexuality, weight, age, body type, hair, and gender. They're traits. So over the gays that abandon their real selves to be one of these labels. Then scream its just me! This is who I am! This was totally worth the read just to look at True Blood Boy's picture. I effing love gay men- they make the best girlfriends- they shoot it straight which I love. I had a great time laughing at this one! I go for the jock type of course, especially David Beckham: You did not offend at all and I am glad you posted.
Thanks for taking the time to share! I agree with commentors about Pups. They are related more to the leather community, and are easily in their 20's - 30's, sometimes even more. And are MORE away if the community than twins, not less. Jack is Same as that 'aging wolf'. Lastly - you gave 'masculinity' as an important and key feature of being a bear. That's almost laughable. And this is not to put down bears, but a large percentage of bears are so NOT masculine.
You could claim it's a key feature of wolves, and some other categories. But not a "key" feature of bears. Now, I know you iterated that these are generalities, and that there will always be disagreements, but I felt compelled to comment that even as generalities, I disagree with those 3 aspects - as I have been around all of the above during my 40 years of being 'out'. BTW - I would have described 'twunk' as a twink who already has qualities of a hunk. I think that's what you were getting at anyway but missed using the actually word 'hunk' - thus the name TWUNK.
Fun article and more accurate than lots on this subject I think. It's maybe a sign of the ageism in our culture that there's no category for average guys. I've always wondered what does a Twink become when they grow up? For example, what would Joseph Gordon-Levitt be? Well, there you go! As a gay woman, I was aware of some of these, but not all. I guess we do like to label ourselves occasionally, and these make sense of some of the terms I hear in the community, but didn't get.
I do now. Have to say I'm not a great fan of labels, but I suppose it's natural for some folk to want to hang a 'type' badge onto particular people.
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Whatever churns your cheese. However, on your gay cliques survey, if I put in my stats but only change my age, I get everything from bull to muscle bear to daddy as age increases. You state that, in terms of density, bulls are mostly muscle, muscle bears are muscly and daddies are soft body. This assumes increasing percentage of body fat in terms of body composition with age.
This is not true for everyone. I agree with the daddy part as I am 58 except that I am anything but soft body. Most people looking at me would say I am extremely muscular, being a very solid lbs.
I know a number of older guys that are very similar. So your conclusion of soft body for all daddies is just plainly wrong or you need another category of daddy such as muscle daddy or? Truthfully I have never considered myself a muscle bear as I consider muscle bears carry a significant amount of body fat more than I do even when I'm "off season" By your description in the article, I feel that I would be more in the bull category as I have a bodybuilder build, definitely not soft body.
So how do you reconcile this problem in the gay cliques survey?
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You got it so wrong Ugh John Travolta is no iconic bear Maybe Nick Frost, he's widely considered a bear, but it could be argued he's a chub. Wolves haven't been a thing for 10 years I've never even heard of "bulls" pups are not "younger" just smaller and submissive and playful fuzzy types. Like otters, but subs. Also, you didn't have to use the worst picture ever as john goodman as a chub geezuz, though the category is at least accurate for him.
You had to have missed several because according to the list, I would be labeled a jock. Highly doubt that, I've never been considered a jock before, I don't think.
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Isn't there just a "regular gay", or oh I bet I would probably be labeled a semi-jock who doesn't play sports, but looks as though he could. I thought that twunk was the past tense of twink. One of those guys trying way too hard to cling to his youth which the twinkies inform me ends at Welp I guess I am an otter.. Only 19 but.. Good god, NO. Here's another article that blindly tries to describe my experience as a gay man by taking the beautiful breadth of diversity of men and organizing it into clumsy, cookie-cutter categories.
The title should be "Gay Men: Some people have stated otters wrong saying they have a bit of belly Actually not really Otters are those who are hairy or still hairy but trim that they have either slim, athletic or a lil bit of a belly. Those who just say only hair and belly then what am i classed as then? A nobody Anywaysnthanks for this as its Accurate for otters and im always happy to be an Otter: This is a fun read. I never understood twunk, I thought it was an aging twink. As was stated before it is a lifestyle associated with the leather community or guys in roles of pups.
They range all ages and body types.
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I, at 30 something, am a boy and pup to my Sir. While also being a jock. Also, pup is not a body type by your own description.
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It's a moment in time for gays, which come in all body types when they're new. I remember calling them baby gays but never a pup. Google "gay pup" and you get hits on puppy play. Generally refers to someone who can't accept the fact he is no longer 23 but Thanks, Abby! I am glad that you liked. I am going to check out your hubs now.